Killed Because they were Copts

Obama locked up a man who made a lousy short movie about this. Nothing to see here, just the prelude to genocide.

DocJay, YES. And a refugee crisis of almost unimaginable magnitude.

• 8 Copts, including 3 children, have been imprisoned for insulting Islam.

That last is terrifying – if Egypt goes Pakistan’s way on this, it will be horrific.

There is large functioning Coptic Church in Egypt, would it make sense for people or institutions who want to help  to discretely ask their Patriarch what he thinks would be most helpful to the Coptic people.

Meanwhile the Teacher’s Union of Ireland at it’s annual convention this week voted unanimously in support of an academic boycott of Israel:http://www.ipsc.ie/press-releases/teachers-union-of-ireland-calls-for-academic-boycott-of-israel-in-unanimous-vote-first-academic-union-in-europe-to-do-so

Edited on April 7, 2013 at 2:42pm

When I was in Egypt a few years ago, I was told by an American scholar who had lived there for many years that the Copts were much more numerous than anyone was prepared to admit — that they actually amounted to something like 18% of the population.

Evidently Copts need to be added to Evangelicals, Catholics, and Islamophobes on the US Army’s list of religious extremists:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/04/us-army-lists-evangelical-christianity-catholicism-and-islamophobia-as-forms-of-religious-extremism-.html

Can we at least acknowledge that the perpetrators here were not extremist jihadists, but normal muslims following their religious teachings?

Is it too much to accept that violence against non-muslims is encouraged by Islamic authorities?

Here’s an update from Assyrian Int’l News Agency:

Clashes between Muslims and Christians erupted yesterday in the Al-Khosous district of Qaliubia province. According to reports, ten Coptic Christians and one Muslim were killed. The violence broke out after swastikas were drawn on the side of a mosque wall. The Muslims claimed the swastikas were drawn by Christian children, but the Qaliubia security forces manager, Mohamad Yousry , said it was two Muslim children who drew the swastikas and that the mosque Imam chided them. But some Christians and Muslims got involved in the incident and it escalated from there. He added that rumors of Christians drawing crosses on the mosque’s walls were circulated by Muslims

.http://www.aina.org/news/20130406140653.htm

I’m also hearing  about an attack on the Christians’ funeral and will post details once it’s confirmed.

An update:

A funeral for four Coptic Christians killed in the Qalyubiya Governorate town of Khosous Friday held at St. Mark’s Coptic Orthodox Cathedral in Abbasseya in Cairo quickly turned into armed clashes after unknown assailants reportedly attacked attendees.

Clashes also erupted at the church in Khosous, and live ammunition was heard being fired from an unknown source, satellite channel ONtv reported late Sunday afternoon.

By 5 pm Sunday, the clashes in Abbasseya had renewed after a temporary halt, and Maspero Youth Union spokesperson Nader Shoukry told Al Jazeera Mubasher Misr that tear gas had been fired inside the cathedral there “without clear reason.” DPA news agency has reported that 25 people have been injured in the clashes.

This is from http://www.egyptindependent.com

Edited on April 7, 2013 at 7:02pm

Lela,

You are right on target!  The Islamic World is incredibly intolerant of it’s minorities.  This is disgusting behavior.  If the UN were remotely objective they would be denouncing this and demanding that Morsi guarantee the rights of the Copts.  If Egypt wishes to be taken seriously as a modern country it must solve it’s intolerance problem.

If the World News Media was worth anything at all in covering problems objectively they would be all over this.  Instead in Israel where the government has Islamic members of it’s very real Parliment, where the Supreme Court has taken the minorities’ side repeatedly, where the Army and Police have been taken to task and second guessed to the nth degree, the World News Media inflates problems and follows false leads compulsively.

The Copts are under a sickening threat.  They have done nothing to deserve this other than existing.  Their history in Egypt is long and proud.  They deserve better than this.

Regards,

Jims

A Coptic genocide and an invasion of Israel, the Western nation in the region. We are paying the wrong people for the wrong things. And our media is too frightened of the Regime to report the news.

Actually James Gawron the Copts has done something to deserve this. They cooperated fully with the Muslims in the persecution of the Saturday people, the Jews, and helped drive the Jews out of Egypt during 1947-1948 with nothing but the clothing on their backs. They along with the Muslims confiscated the property and assets of the Jews.

The Copts hatred of the Jews has a long and violent history. And they still hate the Jews. We had an Israeli Coptic Christian exchange student in our little town a couple of years ago, who gave an interview to our local newspaper, filled with inaccuracies (won’t call them outright lies, maybe the kid didn’t know any better) about, “how awful the Israeli Jews were, and how terribly they were treated.” Maybe this is karma.

Op-Ed: The Egyptian Copts and the Jews: No Illusions

By Gerald A. Honigman.

Published: Saturday, November 05, 2011

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10797#.UWG8BDePZFs

I did several interviews  for my book Saturday People, Sunday People with Jews who fled Egypt between 1948 and 1977. These included some first hand reports about Copts who provided food, comfort and whatever help they could offer to their Jewish friends and neighbors during those terrible years.  These Copts also acknowledged to the fleeing Jews, “We’re next.”

Thank you Kohana!

The answer to this “Coptic” problem is too obvious.  All we need to do is bring in and put more Somali asylum seekers on the dole and deport German home schoolers – problem solved no?

Glad you’re bringing the current persecution of the Copts, and the passivity and complicity of the Morsi regime, to light. Also passive and complicit: the military and security forces who don’t necessarily agree with the Brotherhood, but whose own power depends on  preventing the reformists and moderates from coming to power.